Gods, yes. Rather than picking through all the awkward and awful to fingerpoint who was worse. They were all terrible and no, the good stuff wasn't enough to save it. Meh.
I don't know why he's being written that way either. This episode was especially bad. But I do understand some of his issues (prior to this episode) and how he reponds to them...(and I think it is because Clara is so secretive and stupid with it). So he becomes a dick, she gets dumber and more secretive and he ups the asshole. Gods. And this all started with an awkward regeneration that neither handled well. At least the Doctor had somewhat of an excuse. But then, they just...feed each other and it makes it seem almost like Clara should have left a while back - and I hate that. From the little romp with courtney, methinks the Doctor has reached the conclusion that it will happen sooner rather than later. I do understand his hurt in many ways though. He has asked and asked and done everything the way he SHOULD. And she kept lying. When did this tendency come into play?! Is she trying to be the Doctor FOR him? Cause if so, she sucks at it.
Right?! So kudos to Mr Pink there. Still. Shoulda dug in his heels at being snuck into the TARDIS (though really, who can resist being invisible!?!?!?)
Ohhh, I definitely got that feeling. I think that's what frustrates me. They are both intelligent men. They are both reasoning men. And they are both men with issues. They should have stopped, taken a breath, introduced each other and stopped with the assumptions. As for the assumption that Clara was dating the bowtie wearing teacher...well...arrogance (BOWTIES) and how the guy rushed up to talk to her -
Let's say I can see where the Doctor thought he had that one. I didn't think he looked so much like Eleven (though the parallel was there), I just think it was the timing, the interaction and the fact the Doctor 'figured out' she was dating someone at the school and jumped to a conclusion.
There was a lot of conclusio jumping in this episode. Which is yes, frustrating.
I think if he and Danny had that date I proposed, they would find common ground and get along great. Clara is...a friction point. Danny sees the excuses and lies, the Doctor sees the dodging (and assumptions being made FOR him) and the lies...so really, this was coming no matter what. Danny was right, yet he was wrong. The Doctor only had room to feel slighted because it was in his home, his safe-place...and Clara broke that trust, too. No wonder the TARDIS doesn't like her! It wasn't what she did/was during Eleven's time...it was THIS time. With Twelve. Old Girl was reacting to future events (at least in my little wading pool, this is how I choose to see it).
I hope so. I would love to see and hear more about the Doctor and his home and his time there. There was some exploration during Classic, but not enough, really. And I would love for the Doctor and Danny to find that commonality that unites them, you know?
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I don't know why he's being written that way either. This episode was especially bad. But I do understand some of his issues (prior to this episode) and how he reponds to them...(and I think it is because Clara is so secretive and stupid with it). So he becomes a dick, she gets dumber and more secretive and he ups the asshole. Gods. And this all started with an awkward regeneration that neither handled well. At least the Doctor had somewhat of an excuse. But then, they just...feed each other and it makes it seem almost like Clara should have left a while back - and I hate that. From the little romp with courtney, methinks the Doctor has reached the conclusion that it will happen sooner rather than later. I do understand his hurt in many ways though. He has asked and asked and done everything the way he SHOULD. And she kept lying. When did this tendency come into play?! Is she trying to be the Doctor FOR him? Cause if so, she sucks at it.
Right?! So kudos to Mr Pink there. Still. Shoulda dug in his heels at being snuck into the TARDIS (though really, who can resist being invisible!?!?!?)
Ohhh, I definitely got that feeling. I think that's what frustrates me. They are both intelligent men. They are both reasoning men. And they are both men with issues. They should have stopped, taken a breath, introduced each other and stopped with the assumptions. As for the assumption that Clara was dating the bowtie wearing teacher...well...arrogance (BOWTIES) and how the guy rushed up to talk to her -
Let's say I can see where the Doctor thought he had that one. I didn't think he looked so much like Eleven (though the parallel was there), I just think it was the timing, the interaction and the fact the Doctor 'figured out' she was dating someone at the school and jumped to a conclusion.
There was a lot of conclusio jumping in this episode. Which is yes, frustrating.
I think if he and Danny had that date I proposed, they would find common ground and get along great. Clara is...a friction point. Danny sees the excuses and lies, the Doctor sees the dodging (and assumptions being made FOR him) and the lies...so really, this was coming no matter what. Danny was right, yet he was wrong. The Doctor only had room to feel slighted because it was in his home, his safe-place...and Clara broke that trust, too. No wonder the TARDIS doesn't like her! It wasn't what she did/was during Eleven's time...it was THIS time. With Twelve. Old Girl was reacting to future events (at least in my little wading pool, this is how I choose to see it).
I hope so. I would love to see and hear more about the Doctor and his home and his time there. There was some exploration during Classic, but not enough, really. And I would love for the Doctor and Danny to find that commonality that unites them, you know?
*HUGS*