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clocketpatch ([personal profile] clocketpatch) wrote2011-04-07 06:03 pm

Well, Damn

You've probably already heard, but LJ's recent DoS attacks are apparently being perpetuated by the Russian government in order to force anti-corruption bloggers onto other websites where they can be more easily shut down.

I should also mention that there was a key-logger on lj that tried getting past my Firewall just shortly before all of this began, so do be making sure you've got anti-virus/a good firewall/adBlock people. Since the aim of these attacks seems to be shutting to site off permanently, copying your journal to somewhere like DW is probably a good idea. I've got one invite if anyone wants it.

All that said... this makes me fonder of LJ then I've been since the whole Facebook debacle. In the interest of freedom of speech (and, let's not lie, my own laziness), I'm not migrating at the moment.


http://globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/bric-yard/russian-blog-site-under-attack


http://putinwatcher.blogspot.com/2011/04/cyber-war-on-russian-activist-bloggers.html

(links taken from THIS post)

[identity profile] jjpor.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree - I agree completely. Backing stuff up is prudent, but I think moving somewhere else now would just be giving in. We'll fight them together! By squeeing about Doctor Who! That'll show 'em!

[identity profile] jjpor.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, DOWN WITH BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM!

[identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't buy that it's the government, in no small part because Medvedev has an LJ (also because it's just too stupid--block the site if you want, a la China, but LJ is global, not Russian, even if a helluva lot of Russians use it. It's a rotten PR move. And if anyone's good at the PR, it's the (ex-)Communist countries.

I would totally buy that a group like Nashi, the pro-Putin youth group who are, IMHO, adorably insane, would do something like this to try to help their pal out. But I just don't buy it as a government action. Not yet, anyway.

I do, however, completely agree that it's bullshit and that it's a rather frightening example of how much some people don't give a toss about free speech (or are, in fact, entirely threatened by it).

[identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was me. That was actually the first time I heard about them, and I was IMing with Nikita and sent him the link. His reply was basically The Eyeroll You Could See From Moscow with Typical Weird Nikita Russian Wisdom, which I paraphrased (though it was essentially quoting) for a friend as:

He says this is one of the brightest forms of evil and there is no reason to pay attention to it because it is just a usual evil thing. His advice is don't think about it, and don't pay attention. He says they are terrible from the idea point of view but the other groups are even scarier. "There is nowhere to go."


The scariest thing about Nashi is that they're all too young to remember Communist Russia, which means that they are the perfect vehicle to turn the place back into...Communist Russia.

[identity profile] pitry.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. As long as they try and maintain the façade of democracy there are rules that they have to play by, and this is the kind of thing they can't do officially.

[identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
You certainly have a point, though if you look again you'll see that I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I said I don't buy it--yet. I'd like something a little more like confirmation first. The first article is just reporting speculation, and the second link elaborates to say that the bloggers are not accusing "the government," they're accusing Nashi. Which...is also what I said. To what degree Nashi is an arm of the government is debatable to some extent. They certainly aren't official, but they think Putin is the Second Coming, so that may not matter. They'd be the perfect way of doing something unofficially--load them up with the idea that there are Bad People on LJ and let 'em rip. Though, when 4.5 million of your citizens use LJ, you gotta figure a decent percentage of Nashi would, too. ::shrug:: There are lots of possibilities.

[identity profile] pitry.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're right.
It's just that - well, like you said. Sometimes they don't even have to be the ones doing it, silent agreement is all they need and there's someone out there who'd do it for them. We get that specific strategy a lot in my country, too. *sigh*

[identity profile] greatbriton.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
This shit is so crazy
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[personal profile] eve11 2011-04-08 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
is it easy to port your whole lj to a dw account? or do you have to go post by post or something?

[identity profile] dbskyler.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
How did you know about the key-logger? Did your virus software warn you?

[identity profile] sbmshaneomaniac.livejournal.com 2011-04-08 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I will take you up on that invite, if you don't mind.

Got way too much stuff on my journal to lose.