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Turkey IS supposed to make you sleepy right? Not wired? Must've been the Master!crack I just witnessed... oh... seven hours ago?!?? And I STILL can't stop laughing at that ending. I've decided that it must be brilliant, just for that reason and that reason alone.

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There are no spoilers there. See. No spoilers.

There is some spoileriness under the cut. Anyways, I was thinking this all through the episode, and then forgot to put it in the reaction post:

1. So, the Time War never really ended, because you can't end time. You can just lock bits of it away. That's the assumption I'm going on anyways

2. The Time Lords are not stupid. Possibly slightly less benevolent than the Doctor has been retconning himself to believe, but not stupid.

3. They knew that the Master wasn't going to do what they wanted when they brought him back. They didn't resurrect him because he was the perfect warrior... they resurrected him because he was the perfect survivor. They knew he would run. In fact, I think they were counting on it.

4. Gallifrey is inside the Master's head.

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Also, just wanted to say again, for the record, if Wilf turns about to be a Time Lord, I've been predicting this since pre-series 4. Granted, I've been saying the same about Donna, and that's seeming less likely to happen now... but hey, gotta get my kicks somewhere.

I'm still divided about the war that passed him by though. It was heavily implied in Turn Left that he'd spent time in a POW camp. Either he's fob-watched himself the edited highlights of his Time Lord life or something else is going on and he's still just as mortal and human as they come. Either way, WILF!

(I'm &*%$ing terrified that he's going to turn out to be evil!Dalton!Time Lord somehow. Or that he ends up killing the Doctor. Or both.)

Meep.
Date: 2009-12-26 10:53 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] rengeek.livejournal.com
I have a feeling that Gallifrey is locked away inside the Master too, but thinking like that only makes me want to do Marvin jokes.
Date: 2009-12-26 04:13 pm (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] stellastars
Apologies for out-of-the-blue reply, but I just had to say I adore your icon. It made me smile!
Date: 2009-12-26 04:16 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] rengeek.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you!
Date: 2009-12-26 11:19 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] greatbriton.livejournal.com
I really have no idea what's going on with the Gallifrey. I was thinking that the Master mended the planet/Time Lords or time in order to bring them back because he's a Time Lord and they're a part of him... or even inside his head.

But now I just don't even know. lol
Date: 2009-12-26 03:01 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
I'm thinking #3 is the case, too. Or he's somehow necessary to their plan to come back.
Date: 2009-12-27 01:01 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
To have some sort of plan and make the Doctor think he wiped them out is exactly the kind of shit they'd do. :/
Date: 2009-12-27 01:44 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] jjpor.livejournal.com
It is, you know, it totally is. They always go to the Master for help, because they know he can be bought...of course, he thinks he's going to betray them and get one over on them, because he's the Master, but...IT'S THE FRICKING LORDS OF TIME HE'S DEALING WITH, THE IDIOT!
Date: 2009-12-27 01:57 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
I think there was a line in one of the Eighth doctor audios, where he was talking about how he's constantly a scapegoat for his own people. I can totally see why he'd stay away.
Date: 2009-12-26 04:12 pm (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] stellastars
Ooo, I like your thoughts here, 1 through 4. Especially 3. 3 is rather brilliant.

Also, my fingers are crossed that your Wilf prediction is correct. (Though I'm now sharing your fears, as well!) But really, it would be the perfect way to save Donna, wouldn't it? Because then she'd be genetically part=Time-Lord-part-Human and that ought to override any metacrisis stuff, right? *fingers crossed*
Date: 2009-12-26 04:17 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] rengeek.livejournal.com
Unfortunately not, since Sylvia is 100% human and therefore affected by the Master Wave.
Date: 2009-12-27 04:53 pm (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] stellastars
Ahh, this is true. My thoughts always sorta skip over Sylvia -- mostly cause the brilliance that is Wilf and Donna make her a bit less noticeable! Though I actually liked her a bit better in this episode...
Date: 2009-12-26 06:39 pm (UTC)

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From: [identity profile] akashasheiress.livejournal.com
I'm still utterly terrified that Timmy Dalton is Romana. You know RTD would do it.
Date: 2009-12-27 01:41 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] jjpor.livejournal.com
Yeah...Yeah, I like that...why didn't I think of it???

They downloaded the Matrix into the Master's mind and then set him loose, counting on him to cheat death just as he has cheated her so many times in the past...

So, Dalton and the rest aren't really the real Time Lords, just their memories...and now that Simm!Master has mapped himself onto the entire human race, they can take over those six billion plus bodies now and make Earth the new Gallifrey...

The Time Lords...re...born... as Derek Jacobi might say. ;D

Of course, some Time Lords (most notably Romana), couldn't go along with this madness, and so fobwatched themselves/otherwise hid themselves away in order to be in place to throw a spanner into Dalton's plan when the time came.

I like this idea, Clocket; I like this idea a lot. In fact, if I were writing Pt 2, I'd be nicking your idea right now...

Which is why it will turn out not to be true... Darn you, Rusty! Darn you all to heck!!!
Date: 2009-12-27 02:02 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] jjpor.livejournal.com
TV during the year that wasn't was a constant loop of Teletubbies, public executions and The Phantom Menace. After a while, people started looking forward to the public executions... ;D

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