The fuck?

[clocketpatch]

I don't want to, but this may be enough to get me moving on over to DreamWidth.

Please don't any of you be facebooking/tweeting any of my friendslocked entries or comments.

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[alouzon.livejournal.com]

Ick, who would want to cross post to FB, anyway?

I've got DW invite codes coming out the wazoo if you want one.

[clocketpatch]

I've got one already that I've been meaning to activate 9they don't expire do they?). It's not so much the ability to cross-post to Facebook that worries me - if it were confined to public posts. I mean, what's public is public and all that entails, but extending that ability to F'locked and SCREENED comments is just A BIG FAT NO.

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

I don't think they expire, but if you have trouble, seriously, just ask, I've got way too many of them.

And I agree with you 100%, this feature would be ok for others who want to use it (though I would never use it in a million years) if it did not apply to other people's locked entries. Total invasion of privacy. I trust my flist not to use it on purpose in a locked post, but sometimes people just click without looking or hit the wrong thing.
Someone wasn't thinking when they decided to roll this out. As usual...

[clocketpatch]

Urgh, the more I read, the worse it gets. People from Facebook and Twitter can now OpenID post to your public journal entries now AND YOU CANNOT KEEP THEM OUT. Because apparently they count as registered users, not anonymous, but they aren't registered enough to hit with the ban hammer. face!palm

pleasepleasepleasepleasePLEASE tell me that I read that wrong.

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

Where did you read this? It would be stupid if you couldn't get rid of a comment (delete it). But ever since the random snark I got from a CBC employee back when my journal was public, I've always used the option to screen comments on public entries, so I don't think this should make too much of a difference. It would be important to be able to ban asshatters outright, but once they see their comments aren't posting, that's usually enough to make them go elsewhere.

And I use the openID feature to comment on friends blogs without opening an account with their service providers, so I think it is a useful option. Hopefully they will think this all through a little more and will work out the obvious flaws.

They know there's a lot of opposition to this feature, so it might be disabled in the meantime while they work out the kinks. Seriously LJ, "beta testing" is not a foreign concept to most IT companies...

Update: Thank you for taking the time to offer your honest feedback. We understand and appreciate your desire for privacy. We share your concerns. Most of us would not want to publish our LiveJournal usernames or FO comments to Facebook or Twitter either (to the extent we even use them). Please give us a little time to address your concerns. We are listening, and we'll do our best to respond.

[clocketpatch]

It was buried in the comments on the newsfeed page; the veracity it is another thing entirely, but the idea of not being able to ban people scares the fuck out of me. I do like the openID option in concept, because I use it to communicate with friends who have already made the DreamWidth switch. I just want to be able to control who can and can't comment.

The most important thing though is not wanting people to be able to purposefully or accidentally link my journal name/content back to Facebook with one misdirected click.

They know there's a lot of opposition to this feature, so it might be disabled in the meantime while they work out the kinks. Seriously LJ, "beta testing" is not a foreign concept to most IT companies...

THIS!

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

Whooo! I hope you're wrong about that that too. If not, I might have to join you on DreamWidth... if I can find an invitation.

[dbskyler.livejournal.com]

I trust my flist not to use it on purpose in a locked post, but sometimes people just click without looking or hit the wrong thing.

This is exactly my concern, too. It's not likely to affect me too much personally as I don't have many flocked posts, but I'm very upset by the major!fail this change entails -- a locked post should be locked. That applies to comments as well.

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

I agree it is completely stupid, and I too hope people on my flist know the difference between sharing my open posts and my flocked posted. I was actually hoping it was impossible for them to do it with flocked posts. :/

Btw, I love your icon. It's from 'The Batman,' right?

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

Btw, I love your icon. It's from 'The Batman,' right?

What ever gave you that idea?
;p

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

*giggle* ;) Right.

Well, I just started watching that show. I'm through the first season, and even though there are obvious differences from TAS and the comics, the show is amazingly well done and does a good job of sticking within the guidelines of its own continuity and canon. I'm particularly enjoying the dynamic between Bruce and Alred in the show.

Also, I wanted to ask if you know any good comms for the show on LJ. :)

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

I think it's great. I liked the Batman TAS, but it was always so dark; this show has quite a bit of humour, which I like. I also like how there is a perpetually full moon in this show. I don't think they're making a comment about lunar influences on human behaviour, I think they just like the way it looks.

I haven't seen any comms directly devoted to "The Batman" as opposed to "Batman" in general.

[greatbriton.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I'm contemplating a move over there myself if they don't change this really quickly

[clocketpatch]

This is so much fail it hurts.

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

*tears up*

I'll miss you if you go, but I completely understand... moving has crossed my mind too. My life on FB and Twitter is meant to be completely separate from LJ.

*huggles*

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

LJ are morons!

[garpu.livejournal.com]

I'm...feeling mixed. On the one hand, I'm used to not posting anything that could come back and haunt me online (the mommonster has done stalkerish-things online in the past.) I know she's also on facebook, but she's also blocked and IP banned from my blog. (at least the blogspot one...I'm not sure yet how wordpress handles things.) On the other, I worry that people will get used to the little bit of invasion of privacy and won't mind when something bigger happens. Know what I mean? (Am getting sleepy, so don't know if it makes sense or not.)

[pitry.livejournal.com]

... I am starting to seriously consider turning my LJ flocked. I avoided doing it so far for various reasons, but it starts looking like a good idea... :|

[ibishtar.livejournal.com]

When they say f'locked comments they mean from entries you yourself have f'locked. Don't think you can share from entries others have f'locked. So if you haven't checked the option to share your comments I reckon your journal content is as safe as it ever was.
I don't like the idea of sharing LJ stuff on Facebook either.

[clocketpatch]

Ah, but the problem is that other people can link comments which they have made on your F'locked entries. This posts their comment and a link to your F'lock journal entry on their Facebook. Now, people who aren't on your F'list can click on that link until they are blue in the face and won't be able to see your original entry.

The problem is that your journal name is now out on Facebook, and, depending on who did the sharing and what they had in their comment... Example:

Commented at http://MyExampleName.livejournal.com: LOL Janet. I agree, who shoved a cactus up the boss's ass today.

And now your boss, who shares Facebook but not Livejournal with you and your co-workers, knows that you think he had a bit of prickly vegetation up his rear the other day. He also has the link to your mostly-but-not-completely-private slash fandom journal.

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

Wow! I didn't realize how much fail this was. I thought it would turn out to only be an optional thing... meaning if you allow LJ to be connected to Twitter and FB, but it's way more flexible and open... then I'm definitely scared.

btw, if you do go to DreamWidth, may come to?

*flutters eyelashes innocently*

[clocketpatch]

You may. You may.

er... I don't have any invite codes though. I don't know if those come later later or if I have to up-grade to a paid account first or what.

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

People with extra codes will often give them away here. But I'm thinking there may be a run on them this weekend.

http://dw-codesharing.dreamwidth.org/

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

: (

Maybe... I don't know. I once got asked by someone else on my flist for an invite. I didn't take it at the time, because I was quite happy with LJ and... I'd had a bad experience with another invite someplace else. Now, I wish I hadn't. *le sigh*

Well, if you ever find another invite from yourself or you know someone who's giving some away... maybe you could put in a good word for me. ;)

[dbskyler.livejournal.com]

People have been posting DW invite codes like crazy over on the LJ news post that announced this debacle. I too thought that codes were probably being grabbed as quickly as they were being posted, but the very first one I tried worked. So give it a shot, and/or try the codes at http://dw-codesharing.dreamwidth.org. I bet you'll find one that'll get you in.

[clocketpatch]

I've got some now if you're still looking?

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

*looks overly excited, jumping up and down*

Please email me it, if you can. :D

[primsong.livejournal.com]

I've been toying with Dreamwidth but didn't want to "leave behind" any of my Lj people - if we ALL go there, then woot woot! Road trip!

Anyone have any invite codes?

[clocketpatch]

Well, I've just activated my DreamWidth account. As of yet I have no posts, no icons, and no invite codes. This weekend I'm going to explore the wonders of content-import and cross-posting.

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

I played around with the import feature (just for my personal info, I haven't started on entries yet, and I'm hoping I won't have to, I'd rather stay here unless I'm forced to up and move over this) and it works like a charm.

I am wondering what the etiquette will be for importing icons. How do you credit someone from LJ for them? Not everyone keeps the same name on DW and I honestly don't feel like tracking down individuals and asking them out of the blue if they have a DW account name they would like to be creditted under.

[clocketpatch]

I do have some invite codes now if you'd like.

[curuchamion.livejournal.com]

I see you have not yet been alerted to the sooper speshul quick fix which will banish the tickyboxes from your journal. It is here: http://lupinity87.livejournal.com/9308.html

You just toss a few lines of code into your custom CSS (one highlight-and-copy, one link-click, one scroll-down-and-paste, one save-click) and voila!

And ftr, if you and/or Prim head over to Dreamwidth, I'm begging an invite code and tagging along. ;-)

[clocketpatch]

This quick fix is made of awesome. I've been spreading it about my F'list as best I can.

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

Would you check one of my recent posts and see if the fix is working, please? I see it and then I don't on some pages.

[clocketpatch]

It would appear to be working. No linking ticky boxes. It's still asking me if I want to post under Facebook openID though (and given that I'm logged in, why would I want to do that?)

[alouzon.livejournal.com]

Well, it's better than nothing until this is fixed. At least no accidents.
What name are you under on DW? I've only got a couple of friends or whatever they call them over there (I think it's "my circle")?

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

lol

you icon is so WIN! :D

[curuchamion.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I got it from lolmac. She's got oodles of them.

I love yours too! Is it snaggable?

[abbyromana.livejournal.com]

Sure you can snag it, but I have to tell you that I didn't make it.

A friend from a now dead Stargate forum made it for me many years ago, but I've never been able to find her again to link back to them. Still, feel free to use and at least link back to me for the source. :)

[whynewton.livejournal.com]

If everyone else goes, than i am going. Even though I techinally have three journals.

[clocketpatch]

I've got codes nows, so I can dish them out. I'm still waiting to see if LJ gets its act together because moving house is a big pain in the ass.